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Nikon Digital Camera (IR) Infrared Conversion, Converting to infrared for Nikon only
photoexpress
deadpixel
QUOTE (photoexpress @ Jul 8 2005, 12:21 PM)
Check this out on Nikon Digital Camera (IR) Infrared Conversion

Cheers!

Hee! Hee! I actually emailed the guy this morning about his service and whether it would be necessary to recalibrate the focusing to compansate for IR. He said that he did not have to adjust the camera and to prove it he sent me a full resolution file of the building photo in the first row of samples. If you're interested, I could email you the 3MB file.

If you look at the first row's samples, there's actually a man seated in the bottem right corner. In the full resolution IR shot, the man's face can be seen quite clearly.

I asked if he would take orders from SG and he said yes but we would have to handle the extra shipping and insurance cost. The camera needs to be shipped to Washington in USA (I think it's Washington, his state and zip is WA 98087).

Cheers,

Matt
photoexpress
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 8 2005, 01:51 PM)
Hee! Hee! I actually emailed the guy this morning about his service and whether it would be necessary to recalibrate the focusing to compansate for IR. He said that he did not have to adjust the camera and to prove it he sent me a full resolution file of the building photo in the first row of samples. If you're interested, I could email you the 3MB file.

If you look at the first row's samples, there's actually a man seated in the bottem right corner. In the full resolution IR shot, the man's face can be seen quite clearly.

I asked if he would take orders from SG and he said yes but we would have to handle the extra shipping and insurance cost. The camera needs to be shipped to Washington in USA (I think it's Washington, his state and zip is WA 98087).

Cheers,

Matt

Thanks for sharing, Matt. After modified, the shutter speed is shorter and even can do handheld shoot... Looks interesting.... Possible to send the sample file to my yahoo-email (photography_expression@yahoo.com)?

Got to ship over... worry D.H.L. (Delivery-Halfway-Lost) tongue.gif

Cheers!
deadpixel
QUOTE (photoexpress @ Jul 8 2005, 02:37 PM)
Thanks for sharing, Matt.  After modified, the shutter speed is shorter and even can do handheld shoot... Looks interesting.... Possible to send the sample file to my yahoo-email (photography_expression@yahoo.com)?

Ok, I've sent it out to you.


QUOTE (photoexpress)
Got to ship over... worry D.H.L. (Delivery-Halfway-Lost)  tongue.gif

Cheers!


We could get some custom cut R72s and see if we could pay Nikon SG a small fee to put it in for us with the understanding that our warranty would become void. The important thing is that they have a clean room.

Cheers
quekky
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 8 2005, 03:16 PM)
We could get some custom cut R72s and see if we could pay Nikon SG a small fee to put it in for us with the understanding that our warranty would become void. The important thing is that they have a clean room.

Cheers

nah, nikon sg dun have a clean room, it just happens that their workplace is a bit cleaner than normal
Nisa
So how so how so how? dribble0.gif

If we do send, how much is the total cost? 36_1_1.gif

anyone wants to do it along with me?? 36_1_3.gif

MATT?!?!? whistlin.gif
deadpixel
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 22 2005, 04:09 PM)
So how so how so how? dribble0.gif

If we do send, how much is the total cost? 36_1_1.gif

anyone wants to do it along with me?? 36_1_3.gif

MATT?!?!? whistlin.gif

Give me a week or so to check out a few things, including the price and availability of a new D70s. Before I make the jump to a pure IR D70 with my current cam (will nickname it D70i when done), I'll need to get the D70s to replace it. sweating.gif

deadpixel
36_1_42.gif AAARRRGGGHHH! This is driving me nuts!!

Went down town today to buy a D70s but was told by two dealers that the D200 is expected around Dec 05/Jan 06. It's scheduled to be released around the time Canon's replacement for their 20D is to appear.

Now I'm in a dilemma, do I just take the plunge now and use the D70s for a few months before trying to sell it off at a great loss or do I just hang on for a few more months. What to do?!? wallbash.gif

**SIGH** I guess I'm going to hold on ... sorry Nisa, eventhough I'm really itching in the worst way 36_11_5.gif to do the conversion, I can't quite bring myself to invest in a technology that is going to be improved upon in such a short time, especially since it's a hobby (most of the time) and not my ricebowl.

I think I'll comfort myself by getting another SB800 (you can never have too many of these) and some new umbrellas. 36_6_8.gif

wallbash.gif
quekky
i plan to convert my D70 once and for all, no more color dslr till i decided to get the D200 (or whatever replacement) when it's selling cheap

matt, y not convert now and wait for the replacement to come?
Nisa
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 23 2005, 03:52 PM)
Give me a week or so to check out a few things, including the price and availability of a new D70s.  Before I make the jump to a pure IR D70 with my current cam (will nickname it D70i when done), I'll need to get the D70s to replace it.  sweating.gif

I am thinking if i want to get a new D70s as well.... I don't know if i want to buy a D70s or a D70..... personally not interested in D200.... dry.gif

But my D70 only like 6 - 7 mths old sad.gif
I am thinking if i want to get another new one rather than buying off another person, at least i can be sure of my own camera not being abused... sweating.gif

yeah!!! rename it, i might even engrave my name at the bottom of the camera just for the heck of it! naughty0.gif
Nisa
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 23 2005, 11:52 PM)
36_1_42.gif AAARRRGGGHHH! This is driving me nuts!!

Went down town today to buy a D70s but was told by two dealers that the D200 is expected around Dec 05/Jan 06. It's scheduled to be released around the time Canon's replacement for their 20D is to appear.

Now I'm in a dilemma, do I just take the plunge now and use the D70s for a few months before trying to sell it off at a great loss or do I just hang on for a few more months. What to do?!? wallbash.gif

**SIGH** I guess I'm going to hold on ... sorry Nisa, eventhough I'm really itching in the worst way 36_11_5.gif to do the conversion, I can't quite bring myself to invest in a technology that is going to be improved upon in such a short time, especially since it's a hobby (most of the time) and not my ricebowl.

I think I'll comfort myself by getting another SB800 (you can never have too many of these) and some new umbrellas. 36_6_8.gif

wallbash.gif

It's driving me nuts as well!!!! 36_1_29.gif

D200? but what extra features does it have to make it so attractive? 36_1_3.gif

If i am chasing for a better technologies, yeah i think i will wait for D200.
But if your end is a D200, then i think u should just wait lor... don't go buy D70s then later sell it off at a loss then spend more money to buy another new one lah doh00000.gif

Hold on to it. don't worry about it.36_1_21.gif

I am definitely sending mine to them to convert.... but then... i spent A BIT too much lately.... 36_1_4.gif so i might wait till next mth before making plans to send it to them. 36_1_15.gif BUT of course before doing that... I need to get another new camera... 36_1_8.gif

u already have a SB800 or u buying another one?
I am thinking if i want to sell mine away, cause i don't really know how to use it well.... 36_1_44.gif

Nisa
QUOTE (quekky @ Jul 24 2005, 08:53 AM)
i plan to convert my D70 once and for all, no more color dslr till i decided to get the D200 (or whatever replacement) when it's selling cheap

matt, y not convert now and wait for the replacement to come?

yeah matt!!! naughty0.gif
why don't convert it now and wait for replacement? whistlin.gif
tomcat
The cost of conversion seems to be very reasonable and affordable.
Think I'll send my D60 to them for conversion once they are ready to convert Canon DSLRs. rolleyes.gif
deadpixel
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 24 2005, 01:21 PM)
yeah matt!!! naughty0.gif
why don't convert it now and wait for replacement? whistlin.gif

icon_ran.gif Heh! Believe me, my hands were shaking with indecision while I stood in the store for more than two hours weighing my choices wallbash.gif

I will need to have a non-IR camera with me before I can take the plunge as I still do shoots from time-to-time. That's the reason that I cannot convert and wait. I still shoot in film but have been weaning myself off it over the past three years to the point that I only do it to keep in shape.

Cost isn't a factor for the purchase of the D70s and I'm not all together sure that the D200's technological improvements would be good either, look at the D2X, great camera but not at all good for IR/UV. In buying the next camera, I would wish for it to be able to do IR/UV shots too (with on lens filters) as I would still want to do the IR+Color overlay shots that a pure IR D70 could not do.

36_1_29.gif AAAAAHHH! I'm going crazy!!!

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D200? but what extra features does it have to make it so attractive? 36_1_3.gif


Anything that I tell you would be from the rumors and speculations that have been circulating. Among others is that it would have a 10MP CMOS censor, a better metering and focusing processor and engine that will allow metering with manual non-cpu lenses and focus faster, better color depth, more solid build, optional v-grip, larger LCD, 5 fps, etc, etc.

The 10MP CMOS is in debate though. Some people say 12, others more, a few say 8MP. Most say that it can't be 8 because Sony doesn't produce an 8MP sensor, however, the two dealers who told me about the coming D200 both said that it will be 8. It could be that there's a new DX sized 8MP CCD that no ones been told about but its all speculation.

I would personally not wish for too high a MP count as that would require better lenses. On top of that, it would also mean that the sensor would need a stronger AA filter, resulting in much poorer IR/UV responses. sad.gif

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u already have a SB800 or u buying another one?


Actually I already have two + one SB600 naughty0.gif But with CLS, you just can't seem to get enough dribble0.gif


Ah! Well, I've given myself a week of cooling-off time and the shop has agreed to hold on to one set for me for the week, so I might still end up getting it and taking the plunge after all.

Nisa
okie! after much thinking and sleepless nites 36_1_50.gif (yeah SURE! 36_11_6.gif ) I had managed to get my hands on a 2nd hand D70!!! naughty0.gif and i am making arrangements to mail that thing to them!!! 36_6_3.gif

Matt! BE JEALOUS! 36_6_4.gif
deadpixel
Heh! Heh! I could have been jealous but I've already committed myself and ordered a D70s that I'm picking up tomorrow or Sat 36_6_3.gif

Once I have it, I'm going to try replacing the filter by myself sweating.gif Might try doing it in my company's clean room, so wish me luck.

Looks like we're going to be among the first in SG with an IR D70 36_1_21.gif

Nisa
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 28 2005, 04:27 PM)
Heh! Heh! I could have been jealous but I've already committed myself and ordered a D70s that I'm picking up tomorrow or Sat 36_6_3.gif 

Once I have it, I'm going to try replacing the filter by myself  sweating.gif  Might try doing it in my company's clean room, so wish me luck.

Looks like we're going to be among the first in SG with an IR D70  36_1_21.gif

36_11_7.gif so much for waiting for new technologies shutup00.gif

how much are u paying for the D70s? i wanted to buy that as well.....
but then i think and look and think and look..... 36_1_31.gif
I think i rather save the money to buy sigma 10-20, nikkor 105 and my golf set.... 36_1_21.gif

When are u going to do the replacing? blink.gif
GOOD LUCK! naughty0.gif

yeah i think we might naughty0.gif
quekky
Matt, which filter are u going to use? Do u mind if i look at how u operate your D70? dribble0.gif

If u have a piece of spare filter laying around, do u mind selling me so that i can mod mine as well? I'll do it at home, with lots of dust wink.gif if not then i gotta order a piece of ELP





let us all pray hard that all our mods works 36_1_1.gif
deadpixel
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 28 2005, 05:12 PM)
36_11_7.gif so much for waiting for new technologies shutup00.gif

how much are u paying for the D70s? i wanted to buy that as well.....
but then i think and look and think and look..... 36_1_31.gif
I think i rather save the money to buy sigma 10-20, nikkor 105 and my golf set.... 36_1_21.gif

When are u going to do the replacing? blink.gif
GOOD LUCK! naughty0.gif

yeah i think we might naughty0.gif

QUOTE
36_11_7.gif so much for waiting for new technologies  shutup00.gif


I thought about it over the weekend but felt that there was a very big possibility that the D200 would be unsuitable for IR, just like the D2X. The more I thought about it, the more I felt that a D70s would meet my needs. I could then check out a D200 for IR suitability when it appears and if its good, then sell of the D70s or wait for the D200s biggrin.gif

I'm getting the body only, so it's costing me ~SG$1,400. For $60 more, I can get a 1GB 80x Lexar card. One thing I'll definately be getting with the D70s is the corded remote.



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I think i rather save the money to buy sigma 10-20, nikkor 105 and my golf set....  36_1_21.gif


I already have a 105mm and the Tokina 12-24 meets my needs, so ha! ha! no lens-lust for me haha0000.gif

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When are u going to do the replacing?  blink.gif
GOOD LUCK!  naughty0.gif


Should be by next Thu. I'm trying to see if I can get the R72 professionally cut rather than doing it myself sweating.gif

Cheers
Matt
deadpixel
QUOTE (quekky @ Jul 28 2005, 05:45 PM)
Matt, which filter are u going to use? Do u mind if i look at how u operate your D70? dribble0.gif

If u have a piece of spare filter laying around, do u mind selling me so that i can mod mine as well? I'll do it at home, with lots of dust wink.gif if not then i gotta order a piece of ELP





let us all pray hard that all our mods works 36_1_1.gif

I'll be using the Hoya R72, so I need to get it cut first.

Wouldn't mind having others watch, the moral support would be good. haha0000.gif . However, it depends on whether I do this at home or at the office. If it's at the office, than I'm afraid that it will be alone.

I do have some spare, so I might be able to sell them to you.

Nisa
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 28 2005, 09:17 PM)


I thought about it over the weekend but felt that there was a very big possibility that the D200 would be unsuitable for IR, just like the D2X.  The more I thought about it, the more I felt that a D70s would meet my needs.  I could then check out a D200 for IR suitability when it appears and if its good, then sell of the D70s or wait for the D200s  biggrin.gif
I'm getting the body only, so it's costing me ~SG$1,400.  For $60 more, I can get a 1GB 80x Lexar card.  One thing I'll definately be getting with the D70s is the corded remote.
I already have a 105mm and the Tokina 12-24 meets my needs, so ha! ha! no lens-lust for me  haha0000.gif
Should be by next Thu.  I'm trying to see if I can get the R72 professionally cut rather than doing it myself  sweating.gif
Cheers
Matt


haha well at least u make up your mind what u want rolleyes.gif
WAAA 1.4K? can't afford it now...36_1_38.gif
u getting the lexar card? u mai sell me cheap cheap lah 36_6_4.gif
one thing i want was the corded remote as well... sad.gif

Well.... when i get the nikkor i would have my 105 TOO! 36_1_15.gif

Maybe i should wait for you to get it done, then see how is it for u, then i can ask you to do it for me tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 36_1_39.gif
deadpixel
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 28 2005, 09:55 PM)

Maybe i should wait for you to get it done, then see how is it for u, then i can ask you to do it for me tooooooooooooooooooooooooooo  36_1_39.gif

If I can successfully do it for my camera, I'd be quite happy to help assuming I'm forgiven in advance for any boo boos whistlin.gif

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Well.... when i get the nikkor i would have my 105 TOO!  36_1_15.gif 


Did you consider the Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG? It's not as solidly built as the Nikkor, but I've found it to be optically as good, if not better. The best part is that your hands won't feel like they're breaking, after 2 hours of chasing bugs. biggrin.gif

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u getting the lexar card? u mai sell me cheap cheap lah 36_6_4.gif


Mussssssst reeeeeesssssssissstt....... 36_7_6.gif

This post has been edited by deadpixel on Jul 28 2005, 10:38 PM
Nisa
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 28 2005, 10:36 PM)
If I can successfully do it for my camera, I'd be quite happy to help assuming I'm forgiven in advance for any boo boos whistlin.gif

Did you consider the Sigma 105mm f/2.8 EX DG? It's not as solidly built as the Nikkor, but I've found it to be optically as good, if not better. The best part is that your hands won't feel like they're breaking, after 2 hours of chasing bugs. biggrin.gif

Mussssssst reeeeeesssssssissstt....... 36_7_6.gif

bOO BOOS?!?!?! sweating.gif You are scaring me..... 36_1_25.gif

Sigma 105? is lighter? and less costly? I am not using it for bugs tongue.gif
I want to use it for food photography.... tongue.gif

dun resist!! since u got such a cheap deal, naughty0.gif
might as well get it then sell it cheap cheap to me dribble0.gif naughty0.gif
quekky
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 28 2005, 09:24 PM)
I'll be using the Hoya R72, so I need to get it cut first.

Wouldn't mind having others watch, the moral support would be good. haha0000.gif . However, it depends on whether I do this at home or at the office. If it's at the office, than I'm afraid that it will be alone.

I do have some spare, so I might be able to sell them to you.

do let me know when u're doing it, if it's possible i would like to do mine as well wub.gif

let me know when u are cutting it so i can tompang, cut together biggrin.gif R72 will be better then using ELP as there are much more colors

thanks in advance hor hug00000.gif
quekky
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 29 2005, 09:24 AM)
bOO BOOS?!?!?! sweating.gif You are scaring me..... 36_1_25.gif

Sigma 105? is lighter? and less costly? I am not using it for bugs tongue.gif
I want to use it for food photography.... tongue.gif

dun resist!! since u got such a cheap deal, naughty0.gif
might as well get it then sell it cheap cheap to me dribble0.gif naughty0.gif

if u shooting food then a 50mm is enough liao, dun need macro lens or such zoom
deadpixel
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 29 2005, 09:24 AM)
bOO BOOS?!?!?! sweating.gif You are scaring me..... 36_1_25.gif

Sigma 105? is lighter? and less costly? I am not using it for bugs tongue.gif
I want to use it for food photography.... tongue.gif

dun resist!! since u got such a cheap deal, naughty0.gif
might as well get it then sell it cheap cheap to me dribble0.gif naughty0.gif

Yeah, the Sigma 105 is much lighter, by about half actually, and also less costly, also about by half. ohmy.gif

Shooting food? It's like quekky said, a 50mm f/1.8 will do the trick, unless you're planning to take pictures of rice grains 36_1_19.gif
But seriously, a macro lens isn't absolutely necessary for photographing food unless you're going to do some real close-ups of small fruits or fruit item. What may be more useful would be a perspective control (PC) lens, but these are more expensive than 2xD70s. 36_1_25.gif
Nisa
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 29 2005, 03:20 PM)
Yeah, the Sigma 105 is much lighter, by about half actually, and also less costly, also about by half. ohmy.gif

Shooting food? It's like quekky said, a 50mm f/1.8 will do the trick, unless you're planning to take pictures of rice grains 36_1_19.gif
But seriously, a macro lens isn't absolutely necessary for photographing food unless you're going to do some real close-ups of small fruits or fruit item. What may be more useful would be a perspective control (PC) lens, but these are more expensive than 2xD70s. 36_1_25.gif

sigma... i will think about it... dry.gif

actually i prefer 105, cause i am thinking of shooting the seeds on the strawberries

ERRRR 2 X D70s? shutup00.gif shutup00.gif
Nisa
So next thurs u will be done.?...? cheers00.gif

so when will the test pictures be out? 36_1_1.gif

actually why use R72? can't we use cokin P007? 36_1_3.gif
deadpixel
QUOTE (Nisa @ Jul 29 2005, 03:42 PM)
So next thurs u will be done.?...? cheers00.gif

so when will the test pictures be out? 36_1_1.gif

actually why use R72? can't we use cokin P007? 36_1_3.gif

Just picked up my D70s so will start the process of converting my old D70. haha0000.gif

There'll be test pics almost immediately after the conversion I guess, eventhough they may just be pop-shots. tongue.gif

The thickness of the R72 (2.45mm) is closest to the AA filter (2.5mm). The Cokin P007 is only 1.5mm thick and is less dense than the R72. icon_ran.gif

ark19
QUOTE (deadpixel @ Jul 29 2005, 09:39 PM)
Just picked up my D70s so will start the process of converting my old D70. haha0000.gif

There'll be test pics almost immediately after the conversion I guess, eventhough they may just be pop-shots. tongue.gif

The thickness of the R72 (2.45mm) is closest to the AA filter (2.5mm). The Cokin P007 is only 1.5mm thick and is less dense than the R72. icon_ran.gif

Hi Deadpixel, are you using the r72 from normal screw mount filters?
Good luck on the mod dribble0.gif
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